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Post by Sid Richardson on Jul 8, 2007 2:23:02 GMT -5
Just read about your last investigation in Rush. I have to say I am shocked of y'alls findings. I know for a fact that the place is active. Just about every time we have went down there we have got something. Whether it be pictures or EVPS or both. You (and others) have examined a few of our (HAINT's) EVP's and they were good enough to convince your group for your last trip out there. I can't figure out why y'all havn't capture any thing out there. Maybe science is getting in the way of your observations. Anyways, we should meet up one day and talk about Rush. Happy hunting!
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Post by JayDee on Jul 9, 2007 18:53:20 GMT -5
Actually Sid the EVPs' have been analized and with the noise levels and the acoustics from the river valley and the way sound travels in that area what could be pulled out from the evps' are in the human voice freq. range.
Getting voices from riverbed gravel shifting under ones feet or water dripping in a dishwasher is nothing more than the mind hearing what it wants to, there is nothing paranormal about that at all.
As for photos, orbs do nothing but validate, dust, moisture, pollen and the likes. If you can see an Orb with the naked eye, and get it on film or digital then you are on to something. Most orbs seen by the naked eye happen so fast a person does not have time to react to take a picture. Happens to me quite often.
I do both science, AND metaphyical means to all investigations. And like I said in the past those buildings are not in their original locations. That doesn't mean a structure can't hold past energies like another theory of the land does and structures don't. Know one really trully knows how it works. I lean to the land more than structures.
With that said the buildings are the only things we have stated about on the site. We are however looking at a location where a home used to stand but no longer does. This particular spot has shown mixed results but results none the less.
We research paranormal, and not all locations WITH paranormal activity are Haunted.
Always happy to chit chat about this stuff. I also would like to get in contact with your friend who speaks Cherokee. I have some EVP's that are not making sense to me and was curious if possible Native American in nature.
What happened to your site, and myspace pages. went to ask you a question and you vanished
talk soon
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Post by Sid on Jul 15, 2007 10:14:03 GMT -5
Sorry that you feel that way about some EVPs are just the mind picking out what you want it to say. I do however feel different about that. I belive that spirits can use surrounding noise to generate a voice to speak. But that is my opinion. My spectralgram showed most voices in the 500- 1200 Hz range. We didn't not fake any of them. Like I said in the past, the only way a person would truely believe in them is that they would have to have been there during the recording. And the ones that were there for them can testify that they are in fact real. As for that web pages we had some problems among ourselves so we took them down to eliminate the problem.
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Post by JayDee on Jul 15, 2007 13:06:58 GMT -5
Hey again Sid,
I never meant to imply you faked them. I stated the NOISE level is so high it is hard to pull just the reported EVP out of them.
Most EVP's last for just a brief moment, NOT most of the recording. example a 30 sec clip will not contain 29 secs of EVP.
We did a test on the acoustics in the area, and up at the smelter with kids playing and such we recorded them plain as day at the buildings down the road where we were recording.
As for EVP's and noise like white noise I can see maybe some instances where it might work. but not all the time.
You can't set a recorder out next to a stream with water filtering over rocks and "get an evp" you may think you hear one, but that would mean EVP's are everywhere.
Its like on a photo (and I see alot) of an outdoor scene, cemetary or what have you. and someone sees a face in the leaves or tree bark (made from the background of those leaves and bark)
That is far from paranormal. "its like looking at clouds and seeing a fluffy bunny" the mind is a wild thing that we are still learning about.
And science has the ability to recreate the feeling of a presence just by using electrodes, and thats provable.
As for the frequency the human vocal range falls into the 300 to 3000 Hz range.
And believe me I don't shoot down everything sent to me, just because I wasn't there to see how something was performed or recorded. I just had one sent to me that I wasn't expecting to hear a thing.
The one sending said he could hear something but didn't know how to clean it up. All i heard was simple static with a break in the sequencs. So I Cleaned it, amplified and played it.........plain as day hear a little girl say "you can call me princess" and its at 187hz well below the human vocals.
Like I told you in the past, my theories are not perfect, and no ones is. If we had the answers and knew everything, we wouldn't have to leave our homes to do the research.
Thats why everyone trying different things is important. I won't tell you that your methods are wrong, and don't expect you to tell me the same. Because until we all start getting PROVABLE results.........we are all wrong.
shoot me an email, and if you have your original files in .wav form not mp3 thats what I need to hear. Once an evp file is compressed it changes the data and freq. info from its original recorded status.
talk soon, wife want to go to WalMart......oh joy lol.
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